Laine and Nell Catch up

Nell and Laine start season 2 off with their classic banter and catch up on their latest and greatest troubles like neighborhood mom patrol gone wrong, organizing group chats and mom sports talk. They also give us some previews into the guests and topics they'll cover in season 2 of Double Trouble as they lean into their life stage and go deeper into the layers of motherhood and womanhood in their 40s.

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  Hey girl, I'm at the vet with the dog right now. I cannot talk. Oh, living the dream over there. Call me back, like, anytime before five when I start my Uber shift with the kids, okay? Oh, got it, okay. Welcome to Double Trouble. A podcast narrated by identical twins, living in organized chaos, trying to figure out what's up and what's down in this world, all while living 2000 miles apart.

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Well, hey there, sister.  Hello. Welcome back to the podcast, Double Trouble. Season 2, we're back! Yay! This is so exciting. Let's just have a catch up, right? I think a catch up is nice. I mean, for us, and for our listeners, this is kind of a way just to re establish. I mean, little do they know that we've been hard at work.

We've already done some interviews, we'll tease those soon. Yes, we will. You know, it's school started. We're back in business. Everybody's, you know, if, if you're a mom or you're a student or whatever's going on here, we're kind of tail chasing your kids. That's right. That's right. Um, fielding emails and what's apps and text messages galore.

I mean, is this a time that you feel you need an executive assistant or what? Well, or just like an executive functioning coach for myself. You know, it's like for just organization and brain waves alone. I tried to do one of these, one of my friends uses like one of these calendars that's like color coded for each child.

She has two children and then like the husband and her and I tried to do it with all of us and literally I was like this, this, this. doesn't work for me. Like it doesn't, especially because of how often things change. And I'm like, this is what's interesting about those tools. Those tools require a lot of work.

It's like they just require their one more thing. It's like when they talk about sharing a calendar, I'm like, ah, it's like then you have to like sink them and then you did. Yeah, I don't know. And if, if there's like for us, a lot of the stuff, like they announced the day before, like the school tennis team, they're like, tomorrow's a meet.

Your kid's going to leave school at one o'clock. I'm like, well, I don't know. If I had that color coded thing, I'd be putting it in there in the moment. Right, exactly. You can't put stuff in a month in advance and think it's going to stay or last. Like there's so many moving parts that it's almost easier just to be like, I'm not gonna, I'm not even gonna try to organize this.

I'm just going to see what I can accomplish as it comes at me. Well, it's funny you say not even gonna try because I was gonna tell you this story. I've been like dying to tell you it because this is like this whole like concept of like, how hard do you try in anything as a mother? How hard do you try?

Are you a tiger mom? Are you like, you know, are you just like a half like just put half your effort in? But I have to tell you that the funniest thing started to happen to me in the beginning of the school year. Been waiting to tell you on the pod about it. A situation I had with my daughter, my middle child.

Are you ready? Are you ready? I'm definitely fast in my feet. Tell your mom. Okay. So first off, I very rarely,  very rarely, very rarely get involved in anything. I'm just kind of like, you know, sit back, let it happen, kind of like, Oh, you're such a sit back type of person, girl. I am. I am. I mean, yes, absolutely.

Like, I feel like when they come problems, it's just like laid back.  It'll, it'll, it'll work it, it, you, fuck off.  That's what I think of when I think about you laying, just so laid back. Laid back, so chill. Chill. So, anyhow,  middle daughter comes home from school, brings a friend home, walks home, and they come, they are approaching me, like I'm sitting outside with the dog, just,  I'm just like spit firing all this information.

I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what, what, what? It's like some lady, there was a lady who was standing there who told when I was walking the bike, she told me to, to put my helmet on, or I was going to get a concussion, you know, something like, you know, maybe giving them some feedback. And I was like, okay, okay, wait, slow down.

So. You know, when I sold them down, they're like, there was a lady on the street, stranger danger. They were like, she was really shady,  mysterious. She was like, mysterious. She kept looking back at us when we were walking. And then she said, put your helmet on, little girl. Something like that. Little girl? Yes, yes.

Wait a minute. But just to be clear though, they walk home from school by themselves. Yes, they walk home from school by themselves and so, you know, like five minutes, but it was just like, really, they were really worked up. Like, they were a little bit shook by it. I was like, okay, wait. And in my mind, I kind of was like, you guys, wait a minute.

Maybe you just misunderstood her. She was just probably like trying to give you direction or whatever. And they're like, no, no, no. Like she, they're like,  I said, did she have a kid? No, she didn't have a kid with her. She was with a man and she was just standing on the street. And she was, and she kept looking back at us.

They were imitating her. They were like, you be her, you be, they were, you know, doing this whole acting. And I was like, you know what, what house was it outside of? Where was it? You know, they're like, we'll show you, we'll show you. So I was like, all right, you know what? Let's do it. So my son comes. But most of the people in your neighborhood have kids, like it would be strange if there was. 

But I was like, you know what? Just check. Let's just show me where it was so that I can just like keep an eye out. Just like for some reason, because there was a time a few years ago where there was like kind of a weird lady that was around here that was a little unhinged. Yes. Yes. We did have that experience.

So anyhow. I remember that. Yeah. So. My son and the two girls and I and the dog we go walk down here and I'm like, okay where they show me where it was and I was like Oh, well, this is right outside of I know the girl who lives here and I was like was it so and so they're like no No, no, no. No,  I say to you know, my daughter.

She says I don't even want to walk to school tomorrow now She's scared to walk to school. I'm like, listen, I'll walk you tomorrow morning. It's no big deal So the next day, of course, like she's all revved up about it and I actually said to her at some point, you know Maybe it was like a nanny cuz there's Obviously, a lot of nannies around here and sometimes like there's different deliveries like as you know, now living in Puerto Rico, like Latin nannies might be completely different than like an Eastern European nanny who might be a little bit more rigid or strict.

That's just like energetic. Yeah, there's like cultural differences. Yeah, it's cultural difference, energetic norms. So I kind of mentioned that like, are you sure I'm like maybe not like an Eastern European nanny? Like, you know, they were like, no, no. So anyways,  when I go to walk her to school in the morning, there's like a whole group of moms out on one in the corner.

And corners and I'm like, Hey, like you guys, did you, did anybody see like a woman? Like I kind of tell the story and they're like, no, no. And Justine's of course, like kind of going into the story plot line and they're like, well, keep us posted. You know, this was like three or four moms and I'm like, I will.

So then we go to like the scene of the crime and I'm approaching and I see there's like three moms out there and a dad and a bunch of kids waiting for the bus. And I was like, I didn't know them. I only knew one of them. And I was like, Hey, you guys, I just want to ask you, like, cause Justine's like, don't say it in front of me.

And I'm like, no, I'm going to just ask them. I'm like, was there, did anybody possibly, you know, see my daughter yesterday with like a bike and she didn't have her helmet on and, you know, did you see her? And, and, and they were like, no. And I was like, well, I just know, like, I'm like, they were really freaked out.

They came home with this whole situation. And I'm like, you know, they said she was like, they described her shady, mysterious, like maybe she was Eastern European. I don't know, because like, she might've just talked to him a little bit more strictly and they just misunderstood it. But like, just want to make sure there's like, you know, they described it as stranger danger.

I'm just like following up. And everybody was kind of like, no, no. Except one of the moms was like, huh. You know what? I did see a lady who was here with a stroller, and nobody got off the bus for her. So that's like actually kind of weird. Let me check my, let me check my cam. Let me check my cam. And I was like, this is high security in the suburbs.

Yeah. It was suddenly feeling like I was onto something. I was like, you know what? I'm really glad I'm playing my part in, in this neighborhood. Like I'm just, I feel like a really good, yes, citizen, a good citizen. So like I say goodbye, I walk home feeling really, really good.  What do you know?  Probably five hours later, felt very bad about this.

I'm just going to let you know. Let's see this. Let's see this.  Are you pulling up the text or something or what? Well, I wanted to, I, I'm, I won't, I don't know if I'm going to be able to find it, but I felt so bad. I get this text message that says, Hi Lane,  as you may have guessed. I am the shady, mysterious, Eastern European lady you were talking about.

And I was like, oh my god, oh my god,  did this come, I was going to say, did it come from a number you knew? I did not know the number. I did not know the number. And she was like, I met you this morning. I was there. I didn't want to  basically like, admit it, yes, in front of you. And I was just like, literally just like.

Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, they put my foot in my mouth, you know. And, um, and I was like, first off, why would I have guessed that? I never would have guessed that. No, I didn't. No, I would have said that. I would never have said that. I think I would have verbally assaulted you if I thought that was the case. 

Or I just would have like, I mean, anyhow, it was just one of those moments, like, I won't go too deep into what the text message was. She basically kind of explained the situation and kind of exactly what my, my gut, my gut reaction was, is that she was just directly giving feedback to the girls. Like you should, you should have your helmet on so you don't get a concussion, but that scared them.

You know, I think that like frightened them and it was like mothering a bit, but it wasn't her children. She didn't know them. But when you think about that, like, obviously, in, like, culturally, there's, like, there's communities that are more supportive, where, like, they're all raising the children, which I actually appreciate, and I'm behind.

Like, go ahead. Remember my experience in, when I was visiting you, I can't remember if we spoke about this on the podcast. I don't think we did, because it happened this summer. But remember when I, I, was helping. There was a little one year old boy who was just learning to walk, maybe one and a half or two.

He was very young and his feet were burning. I could tell because our kids feet were burning and we made them put on their shoes. And I saw the dad, you know, I'm 30 feet away from the kid. And I was like, Oh, I think he's, I think his feet are burning. Yes. I think he wants, you should put his shoes on. His feet are burning.

And he was like, looked at me and he goes, no, he's fine. He just didn't, he didn't know where to go or he couldn't see me. And I was like,  okay, but it was like this defense. I mean, it was a defensiveness that was basically like, like, leave me alone. I'm the dad. Like, I know what, I know what's wrong with my kid.

And I w it was that feeling where I'm like, If that, if I was in Puerto Rico,  I feel like, you know, everybody's helping each other in the park. If it's like very typically like, Oh my God, the feet are burning, like here, let me help or like pick up somebody else's kid or, or just like this teamwork or community.

That's how I would feel this. I was so taken aback by his reaction. It felt very like American, like, right. You know, us, them, or, you know,  I'm glad you mentioned this because that's why I was really horrified because I actually believe in like the concept of like, I want us to look out for each other. And I was, so my response to the text message was like, Oh my gosh, like I feel, Oh, actually I called her.

I didn't even respond to the text message. I called her right away and was like, Oh my gosh, like, thank you so much for writing me that. Like, I'm so embarrassed and I'm relieved because it was actually what I kind of suspected the whole time. But was she, she wasn't a. Offended or no? Well, that's hard to say.

I mean, I'm, I, I don't think so, but I think she obviously, like, maybe she was slightly embarrassed because of the way that it came out. And, and the way that I approached it, I was trying to be sort of like funny about it because I don't like being, like, I said, like, I'm like, Oh, there's one occasion I frigging tiger mom and look, I put my fucking foot in my mouth.

I'm just like, you know, what's the point? You were throwing jokes at it.  At least you kept it li I mean, you know, you got it, like, at least you I was trying to keep it light, but then it's like, yeah, so, you know, but I She probably has a sense of humor if she was able to write you that and say, I'm the,  the shady.

Oh my god. Oh my god. I literally was like, in the car with my husband and I was like, oh. Trying to piece it together. Oh. My. God. No. Like, how could I have done that? How could I have said that? You know, so anyways, but it just like was such a moment of being like, you know what? This is why I really don't like getting involved in stuff.

It's like, let the kids like, I only got involved because I felt like it was an adult situation that they needed to me to help navigate when it's kids stuff. It's like, forget it. At least you didn't try to re label all your kids, well actually I don't know if this is relevant to with the WhatsApp, but here in Puerto Rico we use a lot of WhatsApp, like all the classrooms, like the classes, the grades, and then also the little like rooms.

Oh you guys use them for getting grades? No, no, no. Excuse me. So your grade, like let's say you have a sixth grade class, there's a huge WhatsApp for that. Okay. And then like, and the same with the second grade class and the pre K, which is the ages of my kids. But then within that, so I have the group second grade chat and then I have her classroom of whatever it is, 14 kids.

So essentially it's like two chats per kid, right? Maybe the older one doesn't have a, uh, a social group. Classroom chat anymore. I'm not sure.  It's so hard to organize. I was so overwhelmed when we got back and I'm like, I've got to organize this WhatsApp. And I start going on there and going on to each one and being like, you know,  what are the, my son's name?

So and so's chat or group class chat. And then it's like, Salon, which is the classroom, is then it's own, so Salon chat, you know, I do this whole thing labeling of my kids names for like six different chats. I start getting texts from my friends, you're like, wow, now way to take charge. And I had like changed the names of the chat for the whole, like, You know, the 60, one of them has like, I don't know, 90 parents on it or something.

So you made like your child the star of the chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, this is, well, this is his chat, you know, but I'm like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. I thought it was organizing the WhatsApp chats. This is terrible. I mean, but it's so overwhelming. I'm trying to find like a sense of organization. I'm like, isn't there a way we can make this easier, you guys?

Obviously, I don't like me for a room mom. Ever. Oh my god. I volunteered for selling um, volleyball merch, now I suddenly found myself also volunteering for the school musical thing and I'm like, I hope I don't make a fool out of myself.  I hope I can hold it down. Oh my gosh. No. I mean it's fun though. I mean it's fun to be involved. 

I, I do, I do, remember I do the PTO, I do the gift share because it's like the, it's like the, it's the way to be involved, but like fire the least. Like you're just like, I only activate twice a year for like the holidays and for retirement. It's it's like keeps your foot in the door, but let, let me tell you, like I've been poached for more and I'm like, you don't want me, like I'm not a good option. 

But the fun, I have to say like, it's, I like doing the stuff that's at school where you're actually like. Yeah. get FaceTime with the kids and you see them. I mean, the selling the volleyball merch was so easy. It's like 30 minutes and you get to see everybody walk in. I mean, I had so much fun the day I did it, but it's just a question of organizing myself.

Did you buy merch yourself? Were you like Well, obviously, yeah, of course. I bought like four things.  And I hilarious. I definitely had my sales groove on. I was like really wheeling and dealing people. I'm like, the women are, a lot of the moms are wearing for the long sleeve black. Well, the kids are wearing for the short sleeve gray

These see threw the, the plastic bags. I'm like, these are fan trend are only $10. Get it. 

We're falling into sports season now too, which is really intense because I find that  there's like now, as we talked about before, there's the club sports and then there's like the school sport.  And I'm a big fan of the school sports because they're, they're short stints, but there's zero planning involved.

It's just like I was saying, it's like the day of they're shooting out,  you know, email or the day, the night before of, okay, there's a game tomorrow. Your kid's eating at one. And I'm like, well,  because it's all like volunteer based, basically it's not like no one's.  That's not volunteer based. That's just your kids in that made the sports team and now they're going but it's it's just again like hard to Plan around and then you have your your regular stuff that you you're doing all year round with the club stuff Just exasperate them.

I mean just kidding. I mean honestly what we're doing now. We're like wrapping up Like the fall ball, baseball, starting basketball season, football's still going on. So it's like, if you have kids who like to play sports, we're like having it, I'm looking forward to like the winter months when it gets down to just like basketball, you know, so there's not like.

It's so fun though. Like that seasonal sports vibe. I love that. I know. I like that. I, I, I like the, I mean, that's the thing. The difference for you guys is because you have good weather, you can play tennis year round, play soccer year round. I mean, I guess you can obviously play soccer year round here indoor, but.

I mean with tennis, I think now in the States there's a lot of indoor tennis too now. Yeah. Yeah. But, um, I mean, honestly, we would benefit from having some indoor options or having coverage because a lot of stuff gets cancelled because of rain.  Um, so we have a lot of, like, we're always like, Oh, what if we like all chipped in to do some sort of coverage? 

I don't know. It's interesting. That's, but that's the other thing that I've been dealing with is that whole idea of like, we talk about  being like the kids are just developing, they're having so much, like it's about fun, like not taking it seriously, but then I've been seeing, like it is very hard for parents to just really, Not get too involved and not take it emotional including myself like I'm like, I know all the facts, but I'm like no This is fun But then I get to the volleyball game and I'm like literally Losing my mind in a in a fun way not in a like a nasty fun way  And it's just like in a stress myself out way But not know like a yell like from the sidelines way by any means I wouldn't do that Um, and I was, the other day actually I was busted out.

I was sitting like on the other side from some of the moms. And one of the moms sent me a video at the, at the end of me like, Oh my God, now I'm dying with you. And she's like, zoom in on yourself. And she has like the final point at the end of the game. And it is like literally, it's a reminder of like, just be careful what you do because you like, what were you doing? 

Were you like doing the sign of the cross, or just like Basically, I literally just did like an open arm like, Oh, holy Mary mother of God! Like, and then I was like holding my heart in my chest, and like just being like super fucking extra. And I'm like, oh yeah, that will be one, right? I mean, obviously I had to rejoice, but it was just like one of those moments where you see yourself from the outside and you're like Oh God, I gotta get it under control.

Well, I have to be honest with you, I feel like that even this summer when I would, when I first start going to, you know, my son's baseball games, like, I was like really watching and being like, this is really frustrating. Like, sometimes you just want to be like, I get how, I always think it's funny when parents get involved, but there were times I was like, can you, like, can the coaches show the kids what it looks like to run fast?

Like, what does it look like to literally just activate your legs and go fast? Like, I see my son, like, run like a giraffe. I'm like, do it! Come on, like, faster feet! Faster feet! Like, it's, it's really, it's It's lame, you're like Can we get an example of a running fast I know, I really want them to see what it looks like.

Don't, just make sure that you're not the one that demonstrates. No, no, like Because you and I have never been good for our running. That's what I'm saying. I'm, I'm like, well, I'll like Pee. Pee my pants. I'm like, I'm not doing it. I'm not going to show you. I'll like sprain a knee or something. But it's like, I want the kids to see what something looks like.

Sometimes I just think it's like, there's conceptual ideas. A thousand words. Yeah. Conceptual ideas. And then there's experiential, you know, you got to like see what it looks like. But yeah, so I, I, I feel that, that too, and there's just like frustrations and, and I feel like as a parent, you're picking up on more simple things.

Like you're just like,  this is missing, you know? Well, yeah, and I mean, I see it now even like since we're in this volleyball season now, like people, like we were laughing because. The kids are developing again. It's so cute. They're having fun. However, the serving is like a very seriously bad situation. You can't really move a game forward if you can't get serves over.

And for like the, all the moms were like, we've got to do a serving clinic. Like, can somebody like, just take us, can we separate a time to just do serving? But like one of the moms who's, who's, who has the one, you know, One son that's in like the club plays volleyball all year round. She was like, the thing is, it's just consistency.

Like, it's just, if you don't put the time in, like it'll come, but they just have to do it a lot more.  So she had the more like, I'd say like big picture in her mind, but it's hard when you're seeing it there. And you're just like, why isn't the coach focusing more on this? Like, we're never going to get. You know, be able to move forward if they can't get serves over and if they're happy.

That's so true. This is the hard thing about this age in sports and this is why I think it comes into like still having fun because there's too many, I mean, I get what you're saying in volleyball, like the serve is the most important, but there's so many moving parts that it's like, I even see it in baseball.

It's like, well, you have to have a good pitcher, but then you have to have good hitters. Well, then you have to have good fielders. It's like, yeah, then you have to go two, two, two, um, good kids aren't going to get your team anywhere. It's like someone can do a great dig, but if somebody can't set it or get it back over the net.

But the, some sort of a bump. Yeah, viable's tricky for that. Plus, cause, do they bring the net lower? Is it lower than, it's gotta be. I don't know. I mean, how do you spike over, yeah, I mean, it has to be. I mean, but they're not like, I mean, think about what a spike looks like. You don't have to, I mean, you, we could spike before we didn't have to get over the net to do it.

I mean, it wasn't like my expertise, you know, but.  How serving was 

this is what we're gonna do this season. Are we going to put out some playlists girl? It's about some playlists because one of the things that Nell and I do, I'm going to tell our listeners this is we always do it. You tell them Lain, you tell them. We send each other music all the time because what's odd, we've always had the same taste in music, but what's funny is because we live in like different places culturally and music wise, we are exposed to different things.

Nell sometimes like doesn't even know who Glorilla is. Meanwhile, like I don't know the new hot. Bad Bunny, like I don't know what he opened his show with, you know, cause if I don't go, I don't know. And so we send each other back music back and forth or like some old school jams, things that like we, that, you know, bring back memories for us.

So we're making some playlists and we're going to release them when we start dropping our podcasts. We're going to release like a back then and a now. As you say, they're separated by genre or not genre by time. Yeah. Just like the throwback and then the more like now ish vibe. But they're fun because they're like big vibes for us.

Big vibes. They're, they're, they're you and I. But uh. With the kids though, like yes, I, I definitely feel like my eldest, you know, you know, he's always like. A singer. Since he sings. Yeah. He's typically been into, I would say, diverse music and like kind of pop, like the Justin Bieber vibe and everything. Yeah, because he actually has vocal skills.

So he's gonna want to sing along. Like he likes Olivia Rodrigo, right? Yes. Does he likes it like, does he, will he be into someone like a Sabrina Carpenter or No Way? No Way. Is that just Tupac, like, as they would say, girlish pop? Good question. No, I don't think he likes that Espresso song, but, but he could be.

Um, he has other songs, but yeah. Well, that's like the one that you guys were listening to, Bumping This Summer. Yeah, but that would, yeah. Yeah, there's more. When, like, Elaine, when she, when, you know, his sister tries to put it on, he's like, oh, you know, so that's kind of my only reference, I'd say. But, um, no, he can get into, like, he likes Teddy Swims right now, I'd say, like, because he does those, those, like, kind of, raspy, Yeah, it's very like country, hip hop, even like with hip hop y rock, or like blues vibe, I guess.

Yeah. Um, Morgan Wallen, he'll love to sing too, but, um, You're welcome. Yeah, exactly. Thanks for putting us on that. I mean, it would've hit us anyhow. No, of course. But thank you. Yeah, no, don't you remember when I would drive him to Wisconsin, I'd be like, Nico,  I'm gonna put a, I'm gonna put on a few songs for you, and you're just gonna learn them, and then you're gonna sing them for me. 

And the thing is that Morgan has a much more lower tone, though, so it doesn't work as well for him. Oh, that's interesting. I mean, like, it doesn't, like, show his voice well, but. That's why he'll do more like a Justin Bieber, like Shawn Mendes? No? Yeah, Shawn Mendes is good for him.  But yeah, now he's kind of going through that phase of, like, the reggaeton phase where he wants, he kind of wants to listen to that music, where I'm missing a little bit of the singing music.

Who? Well, he has a playlist, you know, I, I mean, honestly, I don't know of them, obviously Bad Bunny, but like, I don't know. I don't even know. Arcangel. Um, oh, who's the other guy? Mike Towers. Okay. Where's he from? PR. Okay. Okay. I hope. I think so. Put us up girl. Put us up. Um, I'll put some on the, on the playlist, but yeah, so he listens to all these kinds of like pump up music, like he'll like before on the way to a game, but he did love that.

What was the one that,  He put me on to, I'm not, I don't stay up with the Drake and, what's his name, Feud? Mm hmm. What's, what's his name? What's the guy? Oh, Kendrick. Yeah, Kendrick. Yeah. Um, that one, he really ended up loving that one. Like, that's his pump up song before games. That's so funny. He's not like us.

That's so cute. Like, it's like. That is interesting how it's like, yeah. Certain songs stick like that. Like, and they become like his, like, you know, their anthem. Oh yeah. But yeah, I, I definitely am dealing with the fact that it's like, with some of this reggaeton, like, I can understand some of it. I miss a lot of it.

Which is because. You know, I'm human and Spanish is my second language. Well, it's hard to, you messed up in English in rap, you know what I mean? That's, that's exactly it. So like in Spanish, even harder. And sometimes I'm just like, Oh God, what are they saying? And like, and I'd have to remind myself. Yeah. I mean, he's like, he's young Nico.

Is she a lesbian? And I'm like, yeah. Did you get that? Yeah. Yeah. You gathered that. Confirmed. Exactly. Um, But you know, it's like, no, it's like, it's like Chapel Rome because like, that's like, I'm steady rotation here for us. And I just die because it's like, what's the one song about, um, casual, which is so good.

And she's like knee deep in the passenger seat. And like, they're like, what does that mean? And I'm like, because the following line is like knee deep in the passenger seat.  Like, it's nasty. Okay. So this is an explicit podcast. Okay. We're, we're, we're approved for swearing. It's like eating, like eating her out.

And, um, and they're like, what does knee deep in the passenger seat mean? And I'm like, Oh, it's just like being knee deep in love. It's like, you're fully in the passenger seat. She is riding in the passenger seat every day. Every day. She's in the passenger seat. Like, that's,  that's a very good point. It's like, Yes.

Yes. They're starting to ask questions and I'm like, ugh. But that's when you realize that you're like, God, why do they have to make music so like sexual? But then you're like, well, we listened to the same stuff growing up probably or Yeah, we were like Doggystyle and like Eazy E, like give me that nut. I mean, the thing is, is, is that like, when you think about it, like  Like, it is, it's what people sing about, sex and love and desire and, you know.

It is, and I don't think that I don't play, uh, Pluto mixtape, mixtape, uh, Future is New, because I've, I've been listening to that, and I'm like,  not gonna explain this, not explain this. I have to listen to that when the kids are not in the car, it's jamming. Yeah, you're like, I'm not gonna open up this, this box of worms.

That could be some, like, pre game music for Nico, but he can't know what it means, yeah, it's definitely Yeah, I'm like, I'd rather just do the shit talking.  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like really talk right now. You don't need to talk about the other stuff. The beats are so good though. But it definitely, I definitely feel like we're at that phase where it's like, you're realizing that like, they're just going to hear like, they're going to learn a bunch of random nasty stuff from music.

They are. They are. Better for music than from searching the internet or something. I don't know. 

Well, um, so anyhow, let's just to tease a little bit of the season for everybody. We have got some really good interviews under our belt that we will be sharing with you very soon.  Like, that we're very excited about is Dr. Joan Friedman. I think we should mention that we, you know, we were asked to have our husbands come on by like quite a few people were like, it'd be really fun to have the husbands on and that wasn't happening.

What psychopaths? I know. Ugh. So we got the next best thing. We got a twin specialist. She's a leading psychologist in, in twins and she's based in LA and  we got a really great interview with her. She's amazing. She's so good. She's an identical twin too, by the way, which is really fun. And has fraternal twins.

Yes, yes, a mother of fraternal twins. Very cool. We also have a duo sister therapist that we interviewed that are amazing that work with kids from two years old all the way to adults that are going to give us some really good information. And what's fun is, is that they're sisters that work together. So we kind of, it's kind of a two part interview where we also talk about dynamics of working with your sibling.

So incredible. Teamwork makes the dream work. And then we've got an executive function coach that is going to talk to us a lot about just this kind of scheduling and how to manage our kids. Um, you know, between academics and sports, and I guess life in general. And just life. Life in general, for sure. The take on that one is that we all need an executive function coach.

Yeah, I think that we left that being like, well, when am I going to get my adult executive function coach? Also, we have our DERM because we really, you know, last, last season we did like our casual just DERM talk, us, all our, our high knowledge. But we brought somebody on to answer a lot of questions about we went from civilization or what do you call it?

Civilian dermatology talk to like legit  You got deep on that now you were getting really deep on that. Okay. Yeah, okay I heard that name was like that got like really technical Like well, this is my chance my god  Um, we also have a new cameo from terrace curtis coming up  We brought her back, the most requested breakout star of the season, fan favorite Trace Curtis and come back gives them.

And um, you know, we're bringing on our intern this, this season to talk, do some Gen Z talk. We're also bringing on another Gen Z er, kind of talk about where, where everybody's at in that generation and how it's going to affect our youth, communication,  what skills are being lost and left behind. You know, maybe there's some things that are being developed that we don't know about yet.

We'll find out.  Sooner find out. So anyhow, well good catch up. I'm so excited to be back and very excited for dropping these these episodes and for our playlist. Hopefully people can find like maybe a couple of nostalgic songs or new songs and just enjoy them. Spotify so we'll let you guys know. We're going to be dropping them.

All right, well, Nell, I love you. It's good to be back on the pod. Thanks for tuning in to Double Trouble. All right, bye.